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 Post subject: Hi guys im thinking of building a bike
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:42 pm 
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Iv done it be for i build a fit custom bmx i no easier then dh bikes. I also started building a dirt jumper but had to sell the frame and forks so am hoping to start again but got my eyes on my mates p1. The best bit is i have some goodies left over for it :).

But that's not what i would like advise with
I really like kona stinky (what's the best kona stinky coiler dawg etc) I want to build a free-ride/dh bike for Danbury chick-sands etc.


I was thinking about building one as I don't reckon id be able to get the money to go out and buy one in one go so i was going to buy bits buy bits at least that way i no what i got underneath me

but Im not really into specs eg: good wheels gearing forks seats

so would like help I no its going to cost more in the long run but you have to do what you have to do nowadays.


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 Post subject: Re: hi guys im thinking of building a bike
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:34 am 
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Building a bike is fun and can be done reasonably cheap ESP considering there is lots of good second hand stuff on eBay and pink bike although I'd recommend getting moving parts like bottom bracket and headset new... Any probs and I'm sure people here can help.

Andy


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 Post subject: Re: hi guys im thinking of building a bike
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:57 am 
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I think It will cost more than buying a second hand bike and then up grading that when money allows, if your keen to ride just buy as decent a bike as you can, no matter how basic that may be then start to buy components and fit them, eventuallythe right frame will pop up and you won't have wasted your time not riding until it does

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 Post subject: Re: hi guys im thinking of building a bike
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:00 am 
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I havent got the money to go out and buy one even if its bad as i get money in dribs and draps


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 Post subject: Re: hi guys im thinking of building a bike
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:01 am 
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And im not sure what good stuff is

whats the diffrence between freeride and dh bikes?


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 Post subject: Re: hi guys im thinking of building a bike
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:57 am 
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Good stuff doesn't snap when you are halfway down the mountain. :) Free ride bikes are generally halfway between the extreme long travel of a DH bike and general xc bikes.

Andy


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 Post subject: Re: hi guys im thinking of building a bike
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:33 pm 
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Ok thank you im going to try get my m8s p1 so i can start rideing again while getting one what kind of wheels would u use as i no dirt jumpers r like halo sas etc


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 Post subject: Re: hi guys im thinking of building a bike
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:36 pm 
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As others have said, while you can build a bike from scratch cheaply, if you're not careful you can end up spending much more than you'd like. It's great fun though, I loved building mine up.

As for the difference between a DH and and FR bike, I'd say it often comes down more to geometry and setup. Some frames (my wilson included) will have different holes to set it up totally differently for downhill or freeride.

The downhill settings make it longer, slacker, and lowers the BB. Apparently that leads to stability at high speeds and better traction.

The freeride setup shortens the wheelbase raises the BB height, and makes it more responsive at lower speeds.

There can also be a few differences with what the suspension is set up for, with a DH rig the suspension generally aims to keep the wheels on the ground and maximise grip, whereas on an FR bike it's often more to resist bottoming out on big stuff.

I think the biggest problem is the 'freeride' is a very loose term, which just about everyone interprets differently. Some people will use a freeride bike just like a DH bike, and have it set up accordingly, others will be chucking it off massive features in Utah and traction in corners is pretty irrelevant :D

Some manufactures just sell their DH bike with a single crown fork on the front as a freeride bike, others think the whole bike should be lighter, some heavier. It all depends on what you want to do with it, and your riding style.

Edit: Sorry, didn't realise how much I'd written there, got a bit ramble-y :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: hi guys im thinking of building a bike
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:50 pm 
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Lol no worries
whats fr mean

and i want to ride danbury helsted woods friday woods chicksands etc


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 Post subject: Re: hi guys im thinking of building a bike
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:27 pm 
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And let's not get into other terms... Slopestyle indeed. !!.Most of the local spots you mention don't really require a full on full suss slack DH bike but they sure are fun. Most people who get into riding a lot end up with a mid travel all mountain/free ride bike or end up building two, one for local/xc stuff and a full on dh'er for extreme stuff like the alps :) which is where long travel super slack and ott brakes become super fun :)


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 Post subject: Re: hi guys im thinking of building a bike
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:42 pm 
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xjr400 wrote:
lol no worries
whats fr mean

and i want to ride danbury helsted woods friday woods chicksands etc


FR = FreeRide, but requires less typing :)

As Andy says, those places really don't need a downhill or freeride bike, you'd probably have more fun on a hardtail (I certainly did before I had to sell it :( )! If you want a big bouncy bike then of course go for it, they're great fun but can make you lazy when it comes to line choices :D

Unless you're planning on getting to wales/scotland/the alps/whister then a 150mm travel trail bike would probably make more sense, especially in this part of the country, but obviously it's totally up to you!


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 Post subject: Re: hi guys im thinking of building a bike
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:20 pm 
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I want to go there but non of my mates ride any more so no one to go with


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 Post subject: Re: hi guys im thinking of building a bike
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:11 pm 
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My brother has chalet in Morzine so try to pop over a few times so feel free to let me know if you are interested, went last year with guys from here and then went back a few days later, you'll also see there are lots of rides to Wales, etc going on, just check the forum.

Andy


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 Post subject: Re: hi guys im thinking of building a bike
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:08 pm 
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Weres that aborad mate

Cheers mate would a hard tail be ok for danbury as ill try get it n get a few seshes in b4 xmas

b4 start building one


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 Post subject: Re: hi guys im thinking of building a bike
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:49 pm 
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Hard tails and Danbury are a match made in heaven

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