Matt_Hillyard wrote:
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With council stuff its about making it accessible and "for the kids". You want to make sure people can give it a go and try and also safe for nippers that want to get into extreme sports!
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Id be all game for 20ft doubles. But the council wont like that.
Go check out Teddington Loch. These are allowed trails and range from 2-3ft right up to 15ft doubles.
Get out and visit a many counci/allowed trails as possible. Infact not just allowed trails You need as many ideas/influences from other trails as possible.
The trouble with 'allowed' places is that you have to try and to please everyone. If its your own private trails, you can dig them for yourself and your mates of similar skill level. But when you have peole of various skills coming, you need to be able to host them all. If thats numerous lines or whatever. Tabletops are another answer, but that encourages people who cant ride then, to ride them. And ends up with litte Ruperts mum moaning.
Chicksands is an ok example. 3 lines of varying sizes. The jumps are shit and lines far too short to attract people from far, but if space was there and there was a good maintainence team, potentially, they could be good.
Dont forget, nowadays, people dont like straight trails.
On a side note, what are you using to dig them? Are you just using the soil dug from the ground? So Im assuming youve dug down to check the soil quality?
Ive been involved in trailcentres, council trails, indoor skateparks and countless private trails over the years.
My advice, plan, plan and plan again. Be prepared for every eventuality.
Here's a prime example:
We were digging a set of trails in a bit of wasteland on a farm once and halfway accross the field (and halfway thru the line) we hit the bedrock a foot or so down.. Had to then flatten what we'd dug,, dig the soil from there to then make the jumps. Totally ruined what we'd planned and the trails we no-where near what we wanted.
Another example. Dorking West as its now known.
We'd been digging trails there for a while when the council got involved and said theyd flatten them.
A club was formed, the field given to the club to make into a riding venue. Even membership was sold. Everything was planned. Numerous dj lines- some doubles, some tables, some long (10 jumps in the line), some short, hip lines, straight lines. There was a massive 4x type track planned (although it wasnt called 4x then). All was good. The plans were given to the council to build
And they did.
Using hardcore.
Was the biggest fail ever. It was literally demolision rubble. Bits of glass sticking out, jagged rocks, bits of metal etc etc. Supprisingly it never took off. It still stands now and is well worth going to to have a look at for inspiration(infact Id highly reccommend it) as that kind of set up would work amazingly well if dug properly. If you do, Im only down the road, so holler me. But whatever you do dont even bother taking your bike.
Its hard work and lots of allowed places fail, but do enough resaerch and it pays off well.