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unityjon · **Posts:** 2082 **Location:** Southend

Makes sense, especially as the lowers are the same size !

Madasnibbor · **Posts:** 1694

SurferEv · **Posts:** 924 **Location:** Westcliff-On-Sea

Looking good...

Is that a comfy armchair on top of your seatpost? ;-)

Madasnibbor · **Posts:** 1694

That certainly is once I get fit again it will change but at 18st weight of my saddle is not a problem

Madasnibbor · **Posts:** 1694

I had the i beam version on my enduro and love the shape

Madasnibbor · **Posts:** 1694

Does anyone ride a 456/ long travel ht seems a bit twitchy now not sure if I need to change the 50mm mm stem for a 60 or will I need a 70 I want it to be fun and still climb well

chris321 · **Posts:** 385

I can't help with the stem question, but it looks great! Less travel certainly makes it look more manageable when pointing upwards, definitely going to be winding my forks down a fair bit when it's all up and running :thumbup:

Madasnibbor · **Posts:** 1694

Thanks chris I'm really happy with how it is riding although upping the travel has made it skitish but now the reach has been shortened I can move the seat back to put some weight on the rear wheel. Feels alot more like my enduro now just rode 10miles and got so carried away the back end washed out even on the deck I had a smile

. The steering is a bit too sharp though for climbing nicely

chris321 · **Posts:** 385

Here's a 456-related question for the crowd, what are the funny little lugs/eyes/threaded holes next to the rear dropouts? I've been staring at mine for a while now, and I can't imaging what they do! Photo (not of mine):

banner999 · **Posts:** 447

They're for a derailleur guard

Greg · **Posts:** 336

They're actually eyelets for mudguards and panniers. You won't need a derailleur guard on both sides.

Madasnibbor · **Posts:** 1694

You are right Greg

my question is how can I fit my boys trailer to my bike using the pannier fittings ?
I was thinking of making an adapter so I don't have to remove the rear wheel

Greg · **Posts:** 336

What trailer do you have? My trailer fits to the rear axle with a bracket. I wouldn't try to use the eyelets to tow a trailer as I don't think they would be strong enough to take the weight of the trailer and child.

banner999 · **Posts:** 447

Greg wrote:

They're actually eyelets for mudguards and panniers. You won't need a derailleur guard on both sides.

Oopsy, was on phone so the small pic didnt notice the 1 on far side

Madasnibbor · **Posts:** 1694

Mine does aswell Greg ! I was thinking of making something from steel to use all the pannier connections to give me a towing point for the trailer

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