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 Post subject: What cassette ??
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:36 am 
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Location: Enfield
Hi guys !

i m thinking to get a new casette for my giant reign 0 2010 but i have no idea what to get . i know it need to be light and strong . any tips please !!!

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 Post subject: Re: what cassette ??
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:18 am 
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Location: essex
How many cogs?
whats the current running gear spec like?
why are you replacing it?
is the chain worn also ?

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 Post subject: Re: what cassette ??
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:17 pm 
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Running gear is shifter x9 deraill x0 , how can i find out about cogs (sorry for that ) and i like to replace just to get something new and nice .current one is 9 speed . chain is fine but i can get a new one ll together if you can recommend me one ;)


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 Post subject: Re: what cassette ??
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:09 pm 
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Are you not supposed to always replace rear cassettes and chains together, or is that an old wives tale ?

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 Post subject: Re: what cassette ??
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:28 pm 
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Its generally shown that the reason for cassettes needing replacement is due to the chain stretch
it depends on how worn the cassette is

if you just want shiny take it off and spend 5-10mins with a tooth brush and loads of fairy liquid

cassettes take minimal cleaning to come up lovely and shiny.
also worth noting that cassettes do not require any oil on them what so ever.

chain lube the chain and wipe it down only

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 Post subject: Re: what cassette ??
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:52 pm 
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Location: Colchester
The general advice is chains and cassettes together however, mtb chains get dragged through a lot more crap than road bikes and thus stretch faster. So like nwmlarge says, the chain is often the culprit and you might get 2 or even 3 chains to one cassette. (They don't actually stretch of course but the pins and rollers wear, so they get looser and longer).

The best bet is to inspect the cassette and see if the teeth are hooked, pointy, damaged or missing.

If yes, new cassette and chain.
If no, just get a new chain and see if it indexes ok. (do this by riding, not just on the stand, as the problems usually show up under load)
If yes, happy days
If no, order new cassette.

Other than that the main rule of thumbs is if you have a alloy freehub body found on posh wheels, in particular Hope hubs, get a more expensive cassette (XTor PG980 or above) with an alloy carrier. The cheaper steel ones dig into the alloy free hub and then you can never get them off!

If you have shimano hubs with steel freehubs, anything will do and its just down to weight and budget.


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 Post subject: Re: what cassette ??
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:08 pm 
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phinw wrote:
The cheaper steel ones dig into the alloy free hub and then you can never get them off!.


the steel cassette fuses to the aluminum hub, this happens almost everywhere aluminum and steel mate together (i see it in car stuff alot) it is caused by heat build up mostly due to tiny (fractional) amount of movement and the two metals fuse creating a new alloy !

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 Post subject: Re: what cassette ??
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:15 pm 
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If you have your heart set on buying one anyway

click on this page and buy the most expensive one you can afford

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Cate ... goryID=572

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 Post subject: Re: what cassette ??
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:16 pm 
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This one is nice

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=42785

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 Post subject: Re: what cassette ??
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:26 pm 
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I just bought another
PG980 i would of gone for a 990 but its an extra 10er for red! WTF!

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 Post subject: Re: what cassette ??
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:29 pm 
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I know what you mean Jon, it's the same reason alloy posts get stuck in steel frames but in this case it's def. the digging in. I've seen it on bikes I've worked on for a few people. It's because the cheaper cassettes are just riveted together so each steel cog digs into the softer alloy. On the pricier cassettes the alloy carrier spreads the load.

I found a few pics to illustrate:

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This is a posh cassette:

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This is cheap one:

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(As you can see I have some time on my hands today :lol:)


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 Post subject: Re: what cassette ??
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:32 pm 
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:clap: Those XX ones are a work of art. I'd just put it on the mantle piece and look at it rather than on my bike!

980's here too.


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 Post subject: Re: what cassette ??
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:32 pm 
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I run the 980 as I couldn't justify the extra for 35g less weight. Thought you'd want the one in red VW?


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 Post subject: Re: what cassette ??
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:55 pm 
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I what I normally opt for, but an extra tenner over 980 its not worth it

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 Post subject: Re: what cassette ??
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:03 pm 
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Thanks so much guys . I'll go for 980 then . :D


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