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If you havnt been there then you need to.

Having been to several trail centers, i can firmly say that the MBR trail at CYB is the best yet.

Just got back from my little trip to wales, started of at Coed Llandegla which was good but no where near as good as CYB.

I had planned to do 5 or 6 different trail centers but no chance, I was knackered, wet and cold with only a van heater to keep me warm/dry my kit out so just done the 2 days.

heres 2 pics of the MBR trail, didnt get many as i was more interested in riding



When I had finished the mbr on the trance, i decided it would be be a good a idea to try the first climb on the status just to prove i could and also so i could hammer down the final descent again,

It wasnt easy but I got it to the of a category 4 climb(according to strava) without walking once,


Even managed to puncture a tubeless tyre for the first time, will find out what the damage is tomorrow.

Definitely going again in the spring but will be going for the beast as it takes in all the best bits of the mbr and then buggers off somewhere else.

well worth the 7 hour of traffic jamming journey home

Went there in the summer (what summer) and as you say its the nuts

This place is on my list to do next year....
Great pictures as well 8-)8-)

Love it there, it was my first taste of "Real" mountain biking.
Of all the times i've ridden there, only ever done it in the dry once We used to rent a cottage inside the grounds, slept 10!!! got up there friday morning, rode until monday evening. 8)
Coed Llandegla is a lot of fun, but not worth the jurney on its own.

Same here. I remember the first time I began to climb the Red Bull on my Rockhopper and thought my lungs were going to explode. That was on the old side, now just a car park/empty. We tried the old Red Bull run last time we were there earlier this year. I said "don't bother, the entire descent is fire road", nobody listened, but everyone complained. So just avoid the trail over the road. It's always wet, very rocky, pads are a must in my opinion and some fitness is also needed otherwise the rocky climbs become a little soul destroying.

The old RedBull trail was awesome, but there were climbs so brutal you couldnt walk them!
the Beast is a good all dayer, as is the dragons back.

That rock descent on the Dragons Back (the actual Dragons Back section I believe) is some rare old stuff. I went down it on my old Rock Lobster, with clip-ins, the first part of it negotiated sideways. We made it all the way without any foot downs, but damn it was some butt clenching stuff

I'm thinking of taking the missus up there for a few days away in July - a "log cabins by night, blue and red trails by day" kinda thing. how do you lot normally get up there? looks like we'll need a car aye...?

anyway - this site has lots of info on the trails:
http://www.mbwales.com/en/content/cms/centres/coed_y_brenin/coed_y_brenin.aspx

Aye, transport is needed, although I've never considered trains. I have in the past hired a combi or similar. You can sleep in a van too

I slept in the van, was aiming for one of the bunk houses around there for around £17 a night but they were all full.

Id be happy enough to drive there on a friday night after work, sleep wherever, ride all day sat and sun morning, then drive home again.

I managed to get there in 4 1/4 hours from Harwich so well do'able, probably go back in late march once the snow and ice has had chance to do its thing.

Hi been few times can recommend Tyn y Groes.. Secure lock up storage for your bike , drying room for your gear and 5 min ride to the cyb carpark and biker friendly.. Also does good food and mid week deals.. Last time I went they were doing 3 nights for 2.. Midweek only though..

What are the trails like on a hardtail? all i keep hearing is that you need a 140-160mm fullsusser for wales.

how much of the trails are like the first pic?- looks ok but i can imaging that if its much rougher or mostly like that then you would get a bit bashed up?

Its all Well doable on a hardtail.. Couple of rocky bits on the red bull i think called pins n needles and Cain on the mbr trail might shake any fillings out but trails like the Adams family and dreamtime make up for it.. Dreamtime is awesome if you stay off the brakes.. If you visit you gotta try to fit in the cli Mach trail and penmachno which ain't far away near Machynlleth..

Red bull was one of the first trails centre trails I rode back in the 90's I think. Never had a full sus and always manage (lived in Wales until I left home and rest of family still live there). Did Cwmcarn Twrch today on my hardtail, was very wet but not particularly challenging. Wish we had trails like Wales!

There was a fair bit of stuff like in that first pic on hte first half of the trail but the bit in the middle was fairly tame but faster.

I got talking to a guy who was riding on a Cotic hardtail, he had gone from a full suss to that as he didnt like the full suss.
He had done the same trail as me fine but his bike was a steel front triangle and a chromoly rear, I dont know what difference that makes but he said he wouldnt want to do it on a aluminum hardtail?

I know (well ive read)different metals give a different ride but its all a bit foreign to me.

Id happily have a go at it on my 125mm whyte 905, but expect it to be a lively ride.

I went down one section thinking that this is a bloody bumpy trail, then found out at the bottom that i had the suspension locked out still