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Matt's ecommencel looks real nice, wasn't sure on the frame model no. though, Andy's is way too dh for my needs.
muzza, sorry - MUZZA'S IS BUILT SLOPE STYLE SO NEEDS A DIET (sorry couldn't resist !)

I've spent ages looking at geometry and size and pretty much has to be one of the three in the original post!

Sent using the force...

Did see a complete bottlerocket on pbike yesterday £1200

Rose bikes use a similar link actuated single pivot for their bikes:

http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/rose ... et-627095/
http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/rose ... et-627103/

Good value, might be worth a look. (I'd keep the hardtail though!)

thats bloody expensive just for the frame!!

That's true - their complete bikes are good value but the frames are quite pricey. Still cheaper than a Bottlerocket though!

The Rose frames are in the same price bracket at the bottlerocket gutted because i hear such great things about both

thats pushed my interest to the dartmoor wish a bit more to be honest, visually theres little differenc, i've messaged each company to ask what the weight of each of the bottlerocket/wish/soda FR is but had no response boo..... as i'd like a light weight bike that will cope 9if you know what i mean ?

If you would like to know anything about the Bottlerocket speak to Norcbot (Dan) on here.
He is a Transition dealer
He also owns a bottle rocket, so I am sure he will let you demo it possibly.
It's pretty heavy in it's current set up but new forks should be here next week and they're pretty special

It is actually a bit bonkers that the Uncle Jimbo frame is £1121 but you can buy a complete XT equipped bike with a Domain fork, decent wheelset and Raceface/Crank Bro's bits for £1773! http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/rose ... o-1-583700.

If you're selling the old bike it's potentially worth buying this, maybe having a bit of a swap around of parts you'd like to keep of the old bike (if they fit) leaving the Net cost at under £1000

Yeah but its having the cash upfront house/life/etc means i dont have, or cant raise a big chunk like that and i dont have the patients to save, but i have good credit !!

too good to be true...
[url]http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1248051/[url]

Credit Card! It will all balance out in the end. But I know what you mean, if I thought like that, I'd have more than just one hardtail too!

The pinkbike deal looks like it will only result in disappointment and a night on the town for someone in Poland.

i would agree but dartmoor are a polish firm so potentially possible.

I would chat to duncan at Void Bike shop in maldon about the dartmoor and indeed the ns he deals in both.

@ wenman the BOS forks are nearly here then?

I believe so

good to know...

Transition have dropped the bottlerocket from their website but i was looking about and reading stuff....

Does anyone else find these reviews for the bandit really confusing

http://www.transitionbikes.com/2013/Bikes_Bandit26_1.cfm

some say its no good for going uphill, another says its no good for gong downhill and they're together on the transition website ! bad marketing ??

I think it is in the xc to am catagory

i would look at a double if i was you or chat up a dealer about some old stock