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are you comparing driving on flat smooth tarmac to the unpredictable surfaces faced when off road?

*double*

Ok, What off road vehicles use tubes? None.
sorry maybe tractors?

And the thickness of their tyres?

i'm not sure thats a great comparison.

OK, maybe not a great example.
The main reason to go tubeless is the extra grip, the extra rolling speed, better handling charictoristics, less punctures etc etc.

This makes perfect sense, i wrongly assumed because Stans were all about tubeless and they're tubeless ready..... they'd be just that LOL my bad !

Andy i've only had two punctures in two years and both were pinch flats from running to little pressure so my own fault, i'm skeptical about stuff on my bike, its a push bike not a space shuttle or brain surgery instrument but i do like to try stuff out, like a dropper seat post - who'd have thought the difference they'd make for someone like me that likes to ride everywhere/everything on just one bike ! my jury's still out on tubeless and until i've tried it for myself i'll never know... which is a pain in the arse right now LOL

P.S never seen a performance tractor, but i'm sure youtube will help on that !

Once you've sorted it Jon, you'll notice the difference.

Changing a tube in the rain sound like so much fun I do miss that.

Once it done that's it just have to topup now and then with sealant I don't carry a tube or tire levers like some of the others tubeless users don't see the point.

Just thinking I got help with the front tire, With back tire I brush sealant with paintbrush left the dry before adding to wheel.

From reading about today the trick is getting the tire seated properly before you begin trying to fill with air, i can see how a tube will push the beads into place, seems moronic to fit a tube and inflate only to let it down and remove it LOL but seems like i'll have to try this.

Who rides in the rain? fair weather riding for me lol

i have on average 2 punctures a year so i'll live with tubes

It does sound like a lot of hard work !..I havnt taken ther plunge yet, Ive been pretty lucky with punctures..at least locally, although you can almost guarentee that a week abroad you will have one or two, but harder riding.

I'm sure I heard Rob Warner say that in the WC series, many pros had a double approach, tubes inside tubleless tyres.

Andy

Tubeless set up is easy what's all the fuss??

Lack of knowledge for one....

Wheel with suitable rim strip or tape, valve,tyre, stans sealant and air. Job done.

Simples !